Wabtec Corporation (WAB) Q1 2019 Earnings Call Transcript


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Wabtec Corporation  (NYSE: WAB)
Q1 2019 Earnings Call
April 25, 2019, 10:00 a.m. ET

Good morning, and welcome to the Wabtec Corporation First Quarter 2019 Earnings Release Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. (Operator Instructions) After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. (Operator Instructions) Please note this event is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to Tim Wesley, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Timothy R. WesleyVice President of Investor Relations

Thank you, Nancy. Good morning, everybody, and welcome to our 2019 first quarter earnings call. We do have a lot to cover, so let’s get started. I’m going to introduce everybody else here in the room with me. First of all, our Executive Chairman, Al Neupaver; our President and CEO, Ray Betler; Pat Dugan, our CFO; Rafael Santana, President and CEO of our Freight segment; Corporate Controller, John Mastalerz; and our new VP of IR, Kristine Kubacki, who’s recently joined us. We think Kristine is familiar to many of you. She got a lot of experience on sell side covering not just Wabtec, but many other companies in transportation and equipment.

And we’ll make our prepared remarks as usual, and then we’ll take your questions. We do ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up, and of course, if we can’t get to everyone’s questions in the allotted time, we’ll reach out following the call.

We will make forward-looking statements during the call, so please review today’s press release for the appropriate disclaimers. And also during the call, we will discuss non-GAAP financial metrics. We encourage you to read our disclosures and the reconciliation tables we’ve provided as you consider these metrics.

So I’m going to turn the call over now to Al Neupaver.

Albert J. NeupaverExecutive Chairman

Thanks, Tim. Good morning, everyone. It’s good to talk with you today. We’re happy to report that we had a good performance this quarter, and that we’re on track to hit our guidance for the year. So we’re off to good start in 2019, especially as we begin to integrate Wabtec and GE Transportation, after completing our merger in late February.

Thanks a lot to a detailed plan and hard work prior to closing. We believe the integration has been seamless to this point. We have already validated our annual savings target of $250 million by year four.

Before we get to the first quarter financials and discussion, I’d like to start off by talking about the management succession plan that we announced this morning. After conducting a thorough external and internal search, our Board has named Rafael Santana, the company’s next President and Chief Executive Officer and a board member to become effective July 1st of this year. He succeeds Ray Betler, who will retire as a Wabtec executive and board member. I will continue to serve as Wabtec’s Executive Chairman. This transition comes at a time of strength at Wabtec, given our diverse portfolio, excellent management team and strong backlog and balance sheet.

Rafael, as you know, joined Wabtec earlier this year with the GE Transportation merger after serving as President and CEO of that division. Rafael held a wide range of executive leadership positions at GE and has spent more than a decade in the transportation industry. He is the right leader for this role, bring it to Wabtec a passion for operational excellence and technology and a strong track record of growth and performance. A native of Brazil, Rafael brings 25 years of commercial, product management and executive leadership experience to this post. He has a proven track record of transforming businesses, while delivering top and bottom line growth. While leading GE Transportation, he’s significantly expanded the company’s regional footprint, built a strong overall and modernization capability and backlog through multi-year program.

Prior to that role, he was President and CEO of GE in Latin America, where he helped transform the market into one of GE’s largest and fastest-growing regions. He also served as President and CEO of the Turbomachinery Solutions Business of GE Oil & Gas, where he drove significant margin improvement and growth in a contracting marketplace. Rafael has a degree in engineering from the Federal University of Engineering in Brazil, and will be based at Wabtec’s new headquarters in Pittsburgh. Congratulations on your new role.

Rafael O. SantanaPresident and Chief Executive Officer

Hey, good morning, and thanks Al. I’m deeply honored that the Board have selected me to succeed Ray as the next President and CEO, and to really build on Wabtec’s solid foundation of growth. Our company has a rich history of meeting the needs and expectations of our investors, customers and employees. Since merging GE Transportation to Wabtec, we have really been working hard to ensure that we hit both our operational, financial and synergy commitments, and I’m fully committed to delivering on these efforts. Based on our first quarter results, we are off to a solid start. I’m really excited about the year. I’m really excited about the future. With that…

Albert J. NeupaverExecutive Chairman

Okay. Thanks. And Ray, on behalf of our Board and shareholders, I’d like to thank you for serving Wabtec over the last 11 years, including the past five as President and CEO. Ray’s leadership at Wabtec has been extraordinary. Since joining the company, he has been an integral part of Wabtec’s growth story, increasing revenues fivefold from $1.5 billion in 2008 to more than $8 billion this year. Ray also has been instrumental in reshaping our global footprint, strengthening our technology leadership position, diversifying our portfolio through the acquisition of Faiveley Transport and the merger with GE Transportation. The Board is very confident that Wabtec investors, customers and employees will benefit from these achievements for years to come. And of course, we wish you all the best in retirement.

Raymond T. BetlerPresident & Chief Executive Officer

Yes, thank you, Al. And I wanted to say that I’m grateful to you. I was just following the strategy that you set out to grow this company, and it’s been incredible experience over the last 11 years, and I want to thank every employee in this company for the support that they’ve given me as well as the Board, the management team and our shareholders. After 40 years in the transportation industry and a career that started with Westinghouse Transportation division out of Westinghouse Corporation and now it’s culminated with Wabtec, the time is right for me to transition my leadership of this great company to Rafael Santana.

I’m absolutely confident that he will build on our success and he will ensure that this corporation is strong and more capable in the future than it has been in the past. Throughout my career, I’ve been humbled by the commitment and hard work of our people and their passion to create a purpose-driven company. Together, we’ve raised the bar on safety, on quality, on engineering, on talent and on value.

And with that, I’d like to ask Pat to now review the first quarter numbers.

Patrick D. DuganSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

So let me add my thanks to you, Ray, for everything you’ve done for me, for the employees at Wabtec, and I’d like to offer my congratulations and thanks to Rafael as you begin the next phase of your career.

So as you can see from our press release this morning, we discussed both the GAAP and adjusted numbers, so I want to encourage you to review all the reconciliations we have provided. In addition to the adjustments we discussed, other factors are worth noting as you model your quarterly results for the rest of the year. So just as a point of emphasis, the first quarter results included about five weeks of GE Transportation’s results, and it was a particularly strong period based on the delivery of products and projects and meeting the schedules of our customers. Going forward, I want to point out that we will see some fluctuation or variation in our quarterly results based on the timing of project delivery, and also the impact of normal seasonality in our transit business due to the European slowdown in the summer months.

And just a reminder, our share count will change again in the second quarter, the first full quarter we will own GE Transportation. The second quarter share count will be about 193 million shares compared to about 121 million in the first quarter. So taking this into account, I’d like to emphasize that today, we’re affirming — we affirmed our guidance for sales for adjusted income from operations. Adjusted EPS and adjusted EBITDA, which shows that our business is performing up to expectations.

So, looking at the income statement. Sales for the first quarter were $1.59 billion. The adjusted sales would be $1.64 billion. That’s excluding — the GAAP numbers exclude the effects of accounting policy of harmonization. Our Freight segment sales increased 131% to $876 million. The increase is due to the GE Transportation merger, which added about $495 million and organic growth of about $9 million, offset by some small impact of FX. As I’ve mentioned, the GE Transportation had a strong five weeks to finish the quarter. Quarterly run rate for the rest of the year will fluctuate based on the delivery schedules and other factors I’ve mentioned earlier.

Transit segment sales increased 6% to $717 million, driven by a strong growth in our OEM sales. The increase was due to strong organic growth, adding about $77 million and acquisitions about $15 million, which more than offset the impact of negative FX of about $51 million. This is the fifth quarter in a row we’ve seen organic sales growth, which showed that our backlog is starting to kick-in.

Just to comment on our legacy Wabtec business. Our first quarter sales were about $1.1 billion, about 4% higher than the year ago quarter. Switching to consolidated operating income. For the quarter, operating income was $67 million and adjusted operating income was $220 million or 13.4% of adjusted sales. Adjusted operating income excluded pre-tax expense of $153 million related to the merger with GE Transportation. Just to highlight those adjustments, we had $80 million for one-time non-cash purchase price accounting charges, $59 million for transaction and restructuring cost, $14 million for non-cash accounting policy of harmonization, and I’ll just — to help, I would reference the reconciliation table for all the details.

In addition to these expenses, the company also had pre-tax expense of $20 million for non-cash recurring purchase accounting charges, which is not added back to the adjusted income from operation. So, looking at some of the more detail on the line items. Our SG&A was $260 million, including $59 million of the $153 million I mentioned above. We expect the adjusted numbers to be about $280 million per quarter going forward. Engineering expenses increased to $35 million on the face of the income statement due mainly to the addition of GE Transportation.

Amortization expense of $29 million included $20 million of recurring PPA for the GE Transportation merger. Going forward, we expect amortization expense to be about $70 million per quarter. Looking again at just legacy Wabtec, adjusted income from operations was about $121 million, slightly lower than a year ago due to increase sales and lower margin in the Transit segment.

Moving to our segments and the operating income on our segments. Our Freight operating income was $75 million and adjusted operating income was $175 million for an adjusted operating margin of 18.9%. Transit operating income was $59 million for an operating margin of 8.2%. That was impacted by some product mix items and certain discrete expenses that we recorded in the quarter. Compared to the year ago quarter, we’ve had a significant sales increase from lower margin OE projects about 22% higher and a slight decrease in aftermarket revenues, about decline of about 5%. This mix shift accounted for the majority of the margin decrease. We expect the margin to improve during the year as we continue with our restructuring and cost reduction initiatives.

For the full year of 2019, we expect adjusted operating margin improvements from both segments compared to last year. These improvements will come through better project performance, a better mix of sales and the benefits of restructuring and cost reduction programs. We have also included net synergy benefits of about $20 million in our adjusted guidance for the year.

I want to emphasize that the quarterly results can fluctuate due to product mix and other factors, which is why we don’t guide to quarterly segment margins. Interest expense. Net interest expense for the quarter was $45 million due to higher debt balance after the GE Transportation merger. Adjusted interest expense was $30 million to reflect the timing of the merger. If you recall, we have borrowed the money several months earlier than we actually closed the transaction. Going forward, we expect interest expense to be about $55 million per quarter. Remember that we are focused on generating cash to reduce the debt, and therefore, the interest expense.

Other expense was $8 million due to certain losses of the remeasurement of foreign currency denominated contracts. Income tax expense was $19 million. Excluding the net tax benefit from transaction cost from the GE Transportation merger, adjusted income tax expense was $41 million for an adjusted effective rate of about 23%.

Just to recap. A lot of that information for the — on earnings per share basis. The Q1 EPS, we had a loss per diluted share of $0.04 and adjusted earnings per share of $1.06. To reconcile that first quarter EPS, you can find the details in our press release. But just to reiterate, GAAP was a negative $0.04, add back of one-time non-cash PPA, that’s a positive $0.46, add back the cost of the current transaction and other restructuring costs, that’s about $0.42, add back the impact of changing accounting policy, that’s $0.08, add back a tax benefit, that’s $0.14, and that gives us an adjusted EPS of about $1.06.

In addition to the expenses noted above, the company also has after tax expense of $0.12 per diluted share for non-cash recurring purchase price accounting charges, but we do not add that back to the adjusted EPS. EBITDA, which we define as income from operations plus depreciation and amortization, was $123 million, and adjusted EBITDA was $276 million. Adjusted EBITDA excluded the pre-tax expenses of $153 million related to the GE Transportation merger that I had discussed earlier.

Moving to the balance sheet. I just want to point out again that we believe that our — it provides the financial capacity and flexibility to invest in our growth opportunities. We have an investment grade rating and our goal is to maintain it. In the quarter, we generated $31 million of cash from operations, mainly due to improved working capital. I’d also like to point out that cash from operations was reduced by about $50 million of cash transaction cost for the merger. Excluding those costs, our cash from ops would have been about $81 million.

Working capital at March 31st, our receivables were about $1.7 billion. Inventories were about $1.9 billion, accounts payables were about $1.2 billion. Receivables included unbilled receivables of $456 million, which were more than offset by customer deposits of about $573 million. At March 31st, we had about $513 million in cash and total debt of about $496 billion, with a net debt-to-EBITDA of about three. By the year-end, we are targeting a net debt-to-EBITDA of about 2.5 times.

Just some miscellaneous items and covering our backlog. Our depreciation was $27 million versus $18 million in the year-ago quarter, increased due to the merger. For the full year of 2019, we expect it to be about $175 million. Amortization, $29 million in the quarter compared to $10 million in last year’s quarter, the increase also due to the merger. For the full year of 2019, we expect it to be about $225 million or about $70 million in the quarter.

Our CapEx, about $30 million in the quarter, compared to $17 million a year ago, increased again due to the merger. We expect to spend about $200 million in 2019. Our backlog impacted obviously by the merger at March 31st, our multi-year backlog was $23 billion and our rolling 12-month backlog, which is obviously a subset of that multi-year backlog, was $6.1 billion. GE Transportation added about $19 billion to that total backlog number.

So looking to our 2019 guidance. Based on our first quarter performance and our current backlog and our assessment of the conditions in our key markets, today, we affirmed our full year guidance for revenues and adjusted earnings per diluted share. Our guidance is for sales to be about $8.4 billion, adjusted EBITDA of about $1.6 billion, adjusted income from operations of about $1.2 billion and adjusted earnings per diluted share between $4 and $4.20. For the year, we expect GAAP cash flow from operations to be between $500 million and $600 million, impacted by about $300 million related to the GE Transportation merger.

Excluding all of our costs related to restructuring, one-time purchase price accounting and non-cash accounting policy harmonization, our adjusted operating margin for the full year is about 14%, and our effective tax rate for the full year is expected to be about 24%. For the full year, we expect adjusted cash flow from operations to exceed our adjusted net income.

I’d also like to point out that our adjusted guidance includes after-tax expense of about $0.80 per diluted share for non-cash recurring purchase price accounting charges. In other words, we are not adding back the recurring purchase price accounting to — for our adjusted EPS guidance. If you do that, I’d just also point out that our adjusted operating margin would be about 16% for the year.

Regarding Q2, couple of things that need to be highlighted compared to our first quarter results. We expect our second quarter sales, our second quarter adjusted net income and adjusted EBITDA to be higher than the first quarter, with adjusted earnings per diluted share expected to be lower, due to the fully diluted share count increasing to about 193 million, as a result of the merger. Based on the expected timing of project deliveries, we also expect that our product mix and adjusted earnings per diluted share to improve during the rest of the year.

So with that, I’d like to turn it over back to Ray.

Raymond T. BetlerPresident & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Pat. Before I ask Rafael to talk about the Freight business, I’d like to briefly discuss our Transit business and reiterate the strategic rationale for our merger with GE Transportation. In Transit, we have a very strong backlog that started to kick in, as you can see from our numbers in sales growth. We have not, however, started to see the margin improvement that we’re targeting, due to a less favorable product mix and higher project costs.

We’re taking actions to continue to improve on our profitability and our goal is still the same, to drive Transit margins higher by 1% annually, due to our — during our sharp period, and we expect to achieve this goal by applying a more rigorous upfront bidding process, improve project management, improve cost structure from ongoing new restructuring initiatives and transfer our work to lower-cost countries. Through a new discipline, deployment of lean and sourcing initiatives that we can leverage, the GE experience now, in addition to our own. And in addition, as OEM projects begin to result in aftermarket revenues from these projects, we’ll see a better mix of aftermarket versus OEM, which will improve our margins significantly.

Leading these efforts will be a new President of our Transit business, Lilian Leroux. Lilian joined Wabtec with our acquisition of Faiveley Transport. About 20 years experience he has in the transit industry, and he’s accepted this challenge with enthusiasm and is developing an action plan to take steps toward accomplishing these objectives. Just to pause here to give you a little background on Lilian. He’s been in the industry about 20 years, as I’ve said. He has an engineering degree in France and he has a graduate degree from NCI. Lilian worked for customers like SNCF early in his career.

He’s worked on multiple continents and he also is fluent in multiple languages and has an extremely good grasp of the industry and of our business and have tremendous confidence in his ability to lead and improve the overall operating performance at the Transit business. Worldwide, the state of the Transit market remains strong, and we continue to bid on and win significant orders in all of our major markets. We’ve won significant door contracts on high-speed trains, in excess of $20 million in Europe. We’ve won door contracts on metros in China and Taiwan, in excess of $10 million, great contracts on metros in Canada and India, in excess of $15 million, great contracts on coaches in excess of $50 million in India and Canada, and on locomotives, in excess of $30 million in India and Canada. So you can see that we’re winning good orders, diverse technologies, diverse geographical areas across the globe.

Multiple aftermarket service contracts, including anti-fire systems in Italy and maintenance contracts for our equipment in Asia. We were also either awarded or signed train control contracts in the Transit agencies in North America that are associated with that PTC technology, the latest of which is in New Mexico, in excess of $50 million. And for the full year, we expect the book-to-bill up grater than one, and remember that our OEM orders typically lead to long-term aftermarket contracts with good profitability of 30 to 40 years. So as a true global player over time, our Transit business should have better visibility and stability, more growth opportunities, both organically and through acquisitions and improve margins as we benefit from increased scale and market share and as of those aftermarket revenues increase.

Let me talk for a minute about the strategic rationale of GE Transportation. As you know, I’ve been calling this a once in a lifetime opportunity, and I truly believe that that’s what it is. We’re excited by both the short-term and long-term opportunities it creates. We just shared with you some of the benefits in the short-term already in Q1. We have combined Wabtec’s Freight and Transit components with GE Transportation’s locomotive manufacturing and service capabilities. We’ve combined electronics and digital product portfolios that are unmatched in the industry.

Based on our integration and synergy planning initiatives, so far, we’re seeing strong cultural fit, which is enabling a seamless combination of our business. Wabtec is now a member of the S&P 500, and we’re global transportation leader in rail equipment, software and services, with operations in more than 50 countries around the world. We have validated as Al said our operating synergies, which will drive value creation. We estimate about $250 million of run rate synergies by year four, mainly through cost reductions. Our combined electronics and digital technologies can lead to fully automated operations in the Class 1 network, for instance.

Wabtec is positioned to meet the growing demand for train intelligence and network optimization, given the increased electronic scope of our business with GET, and we do not plan to disclose from this point forward individual revenue segmentation on BTC, we’ll report on the total electronics basis from this time forward given our new combined portfolio.

We will benefit from a recurring revenue in the high-margin aftermarket and services. Our complementary global customer relationships will drive substantial cross-selling opportunities and dampen cycles, and our pro forma financials are compelling, especially at this attractive point in the cycle. We expect to have significant scale, a rapid growth trajectory, superior margins and strong free cash flow. We have a strong free cash flow profile to enable rapid deleveraging. We remain committed to retaining our investment grade rating and our dividend.

And with that, Rafael will address the Freight segment.

Rafael O. SantanaPresident and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Ray. Let’s talk about overall Freight markets. I’ll say, overall, mixed market conditions. In North America Freight, rail traffic’s down about 1% year-to-date, with most of the railroads really citing bad weather as a factor. Rolling stock and storage has increased during the quarter, partially due to lower volumes, and partially due to our railroads implementing PSR, which I’ll talk to you more about it in a couple of minutes.

On the other side, I’d say, we’re seeing good activities in some critical and key international rail markets. I’d say we are well-positioned to really take advantage of this and really working on some critical opportunities. In Southeast Asia, in Brazil, in Africa, and I think it’s worth mentioning that, of our current top line of prospects, about two-thirds are coming from international opportunities.

So considering all of this, I’d say our Freight business performed about as expected in the first quarter, with locomotive deliveries maybe a bit stronger than expected. In India, I think we are on pace to really significantly increase deliveries this year. This is a 10-year 1,000 locomotive unit order. And during the first quarter this year, we delivered our first AC6000 units. That was built in our new India facility. Deliveries of locomotives — locomotive modernizations and mining wheels are on pace for what I’ll call double-digit percentage increases for 2019. The Freight car market is tracking toward 52,000 to 55,000 deliveries this year. It’s about in line with the expectations. And the industry backlog did decline during the first quarter.

During the quarter, we also had strong water intake in our waste side and our track products business portfolio, indicating really continued capital spending by the railroads. Our engine coiling group maintained a strong backlog and they also saw strong intake in power generation products business.

With that, let me talk a bit about PSR, which is really a topic on a lot of the minds. I’d probably just start with making railroads more competitive is a good thing for us. And in the long run, it really leads to growth in the business. We believe our business model of being both a technology and service provider is very much aligned with what railroads are trying to accomplish.

As a result of PSR, we’re seeing railway railroads very focused on efficiency, costs, getting the most out of their existing equipment, their fleets. Wabtec has both a strong service and technology offering, to really help support that. We’re currently working close with customers to both improve performance, reliability and efficiency of their fleets. I think the locomotive modernization program’s is a great example of that. I think I’ve mentioned, in addition to our backlog of about 2,000 new locomotives, we have a backlog of about 900 modernizations, and we expect to deliver a few hundred mods this year, and that’s compared to just maybe dozens a few years ago. Of our global install base, 23,000 locomotives, we’ve got about 70% really covered by long-term service agreements. Running locomotives is a fleet harder, does create also additional aftermarket opportunities for us.

On our automation suite of products, we’re really geared here toward improving on-time performance of trains, increasing efficiency, improving safety. And as railroad seeks to optimize their assets, our portfolio of digital solutions can really create a greater fuel efficiency. That’s what we see with product such as Trip Optimizer, which drives skill savings by 7% to 13%.

So in North America, railroads for a time might be buying fewer new locomotives. We do have the opportunity here to continue to work on really tackling large fleets to be modernized, and we have a significant pull of fleet that we can attack there investing in technology, to really help achieve these PSR efficiency goals. So we feel we’re well-positioned to respond to these opportunities.

Finally, I’d like to point out that we’re well-positioned in the key international freight corridors around the world. We feel good about the opportunities that are out there.

And with that, I’ll hand it back to Ray.

Raymond T. BetlerPresident & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks Rafael. I’d like to conclude our prepared remarks by reiterating some of the comments I made at the beginning of the call. We reported good performance this quarter. We’re on track to hit our guidance for the year, that means we’re off to good start with the integration of Wabtec and GE Transportation after completing our merger in late February.

We have validated both the strategic rationale for the merger as well as our plan to deliver $250 million of operating synergies by year four. We’re excited that Rafael has been chosen by the Board to lead this corporation into a new era of growth and performance, and we believe this transition comes at a time of strength, and Wabtec, given our diverse portfolio, our excellent management team and our strong backlog and balance sheet.

So, with that, we’ll open to questions that you have, and Tim will facilitate.

Timothy R. WesleyVice President of Investor Relations

Go ahead, Nancy, if you want to pool for questions.

Questions and Answers:

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions) The first question comes from Matt Elkott from Cowen. Please go ahead.

Matt ElkottCowen & Company — Analyst

Question — first, congratulations to Ray and Tim on the planned retirement and to Kristine and Rafael on their new roles. My first question, Rafael, and sorry if this question is a bit too early, but can you maybe talk about your key priorities, focus areas in the new roles, both immediate and long-term, more strategically?

Rafael O. SantanaPresident and Chief Executive Officer

Absolutely. Well, first of all, I’m very humbled to have the opportunity. Certainly a lot to learn. I’ll probably highlight three areas here. First and foremost, I’d say execution. We’ve got very clear plans laid out for what I’ll call, our former businesses, and we’re really laser-focused on making sure that we execute for both cash and for our EPS numbers for the year.

On the second piece, it really comes down to, what I’ll call, continuous margin improvement. I think here we’ve got a couple opportunities. So, one of them is we really started to the integration identified a lot of great opportunities on synergies, and we see that as an opportunity to continue to drive competitiveness out of the business. And we do have opportunities with some specific business units on really driving and turning around some of the margin results.

I think the third piece is, of course, growing the business. I think there’s an element of organic, which we’re very committed to our programs in technology. I would highlight here the aspects of automation, which I think we’ve been very clear about it. But there’s also really a pillar around (inaudible) management that speaks to bringing efficiency. A full improvement hybrid is a big program for us. And as part of that, we’ll also continue to be looking to inorganic opportunities in an opportunistic way. We are going to be starting a lot of I’ll call strategic planning and we’ll be coming to you with more specifics as we progress.

Matt ElkottCowen & Company — Analyst

That’s very helpful, Rafael. Speaking of strategic planning, when should we expect maybe a multiyear guidance for the combined company? And will you be — what kind of segment reporting will you be doing and when should we expect that to kick-in?

Rafael O. SantanaPresident and Chief Executive Officer

We’ll be developing that through the year, and we’ll be back to you with more specifics here.

Matt ElkottCowen & Company — Analyst

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from Allison Poliniak from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Allison PoliniakWells Fargo — Analyst

Just want to echo Matt commentaries. Best wishes, Ray and Tim. And congrats, Rafael and Kristine. First, can we just delve into some of the commentary on Q2 in terms of the mix. Is that more Transit-related, Ray, as you were talking about with the OEM shift or is it freight as well? Just trying to understand a little bit more.

Raymond T. BetlerPresident & Chief Executive Officer

As far as the mix goes, our growth is coming from both sides. The mix within the Transit side is greater OEM contracts that are coming out of the backlog. In terms of future longer term mix, I was talking about the aftermarket opportunities that come with that, but in the short-term, it’s more OEM.

Patrick D. DuganSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Just to help a little bit, we definitely had more OE sales in Q1 in the transit versus aftermarket. That’s what we — we highlighted that in the overview of the year — first quarter results and when we talk about the Transit margin.

Allison PoliniakWells Fargo — Analyst

But is that sort of moving into Q2 as well? Is that what we should be thinking of? Just looking at that commentary around Q2, I think you highlighted mix as being an issue as well?

Patrick D. DuganSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

There was actually two issues, there was mix and then there was a couple other items that impacted the quarter — the margin in the quarter. We expect that, going forward, that we’re going to come back to better margins and — but there will be some variation related to the timing of OE projects versus aftermarket projects. But we look at this margin as an improving item throughout the year.

Raymond T. BetlerPresident & Chief Executive Officer

But to answer directly to your question on the second quarter, it’s in both segments, Allison, both freight and transit.

Allison PoliniakWells Fargo — Analyst

Great. And then Rafael, you highlighted PSR and the interest around increasing efficiencies in the network. Railroads have obviously been very slow to technology. Have you noted, just because of the focus on PSR, an urgency or elevated interest now on the technology side as they’re looking to gain these efficiencies going forward?

Rafael O. SantanaPresident and Chief Executive Officer

I think it’s been continuous efforts and continuous work between ourselves and our customers. When I mentioned the modernization programs, I think it’s important for me to highlight, you’ve got at least a group of what I’ll call another 6,000 plus locomotives, which are DC technologies that are out there.

I’d say we’ve been fairly successful in really converting some of those fleets into AC, which really allows the railroads to do what used to be done with three locomotives, with two locomotives. So, that’s a big part of our program. The auto piece is really updating some of the control systems that you might have there, and that allows you to put what I call more software and more tools, to enable better fuel efficiencies. So, I think there’s been a continuum and I think we’ve got a lot of those tools to help drive efficiency and productivity here through PSR.

Allison PoliniakWells Fargo — Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Saree Boroditsky from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Saree BoroditskyJefferies — Analyst

Good morning and congratulations to everyone on new roles and retirement. I appreciate the additional color on cash generation this year. Could you just help us understand the details behind this forecast, including any working capital, cash tax assumptions and the timing of the $300 million in merger related expenses?

Patrick D. DuganSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

So the $300 million is really, you have restructuring cost, you have purchase price accounting. And all of that is impacting the cash flow in the year. So when we — what we did today was affirm and maybe even slightly improve our guidance on cash flow. And if you want to think of it as you take that $300 million in terms of cash flow and include it and added back, you would end up with a result that I think you can use to model in adjusted — in your adjusted roles.

In terms of the balance sheet, I mean, I think we’re still working through the combination, and we’ve — but we’ve done really, I think, an excellent job of addressing some of the supply chain, financing factoring type items in the first quarter. I think that has derisked our guidance a little bit in terms of cash flow. So we’re — we feel good about that. But it’s still very early, we’re only five weeks into this combination, and I think we wanted to make sure that we got a cash guidance out there that was conservative, achievable and that you could use.

Saree BoroditskyJefferies — Analyst

Thank you. That was helpful. And then my second question, GE Transportation had, obviously, really great sales performance in the quarter. Could you just give us any color on the timing of the deliveries for the remainder of the year?

Patrick D. DuganSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

So, I’m sorry, I’m trying to understand your question. So in the five weeks…

Saree BoroditskyJefferies — Analyst

The locomotive, how many — like what was the locomotive deliveries this quarter and maybe the timing for the remainder of the year, the cadence?

Patrick D. DuganSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

So — well, we’re not going to break down the specific, call it numbers of locomotive deliveries. But what I’ll reiterate here is, as you look into the numbers we have last year, we’re looking at double-digit growth into, what I’ll call, core segments, that includes new locomotive shipments that includes some modernizations that includes mining wheels as well.

Saree BoroditskyJefferies — Analyst

Okay, appreciate. That was helpful. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Justin Long from Stephens. Please go ahead.

Justin LongStephens — Analyst

Thanks, good morning. And I know there’s a lot of transitions, so congrats all around as well, and for Ray and Tim, it’s been a pleasure working with you both over the years. Maybe to just start with a question follow-up on locomotive deliveries. Rafael, you mentioned, I think, two-thirds of the pipeline being international related versus North America. Could you talk about your mix of locomotive deliveries this year between North America and in international? And when you look at delivery going at the kind of 2020 and beyond, how you see that progressing?

Patrick D. DuganSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Well, first of all, as I look into the year for new locomotives, we’re well north of, call it, 95%, so the backlog to be delivered for this year. I think we’re continuing to build on the good dynamics for next year. We’re not providing any guidance at this point. But I think if you go back to the vision, we settled on really more than doubling the locomotive deliveries by 2021. I think, we’re well into that. You’re going to see a significant step coming off of that. I’d say this year, it’s probably more balanced between North America and international. But as we look ahead, I think there’s probably greater opportunities internationally.

Justin LongStephens — Analyst

Okay. That’s helpful. And Rafael you gave some good color on PSR and your view that it will be a long-term positive. But I wanted to ask about this year, and some of the assumptions that you’re making for the Freight segment in North America. Are you baking in any headwind from PSR and the North American order environment that seems to be slowing down recently? Just curious if that’s factored into your guidance for the aftermarket or even deliveries as you think about the tail end of this year?

Rafael O. SantanaPresident and Chief Executive Officer

It’s certainly in for this year. So we have taken that in consideration. Keep in mind, last year was a trough year for us, with only 272 locomotives being delivered. And we have really a strong backlog to be able to really deliver on the guidance we’ve provided.

Justin LongStephens — Analyst

Okay. Great. I’ll leave at that. Thanks for the time.

Patrick D. DuganSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thanks.

Rafael O. SantanaPresident and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Matt Brooklier from Buckingham Research. Please go ahead.

Matt BrooklierBuckingham Research — Analyst

Hey, thanks good morning and congratulations to everyone. So, kind of a nuanced question. But $20 million of targeted synergies to be achieved this year, when — from a timing perspective, when is that $20 million going to be realized?

Albert J. NeupaverExecutive Chairman

Yes, this is Al speaking. I’m actually working pretty closely on the whole integration process, and we’ve already have seen some of those, because there was some quick changes that we would have made on a HR-basis. But what you should see, is it should start building up as the year goes on. We’re also seeing a lot more cost at first in order to obtain those synergies. What we, right now, have modeled is that we may spend close to $50 million to obtain that $20 million this year. And those will be one-time cost. And we’ll see it ramp up over the next three years in a similar fashion.

Matt BrooklierBuckingham Research — Analyst

Okay. That’s helpful. And then Rafael, you talked about international being a bigger percentage of the GE Transportation’s locomotive business across the board. Could you think and look five years out and talk about regions of the world where you see the greatest opportunity for incremental demand on the locomotive side? I think you did talk to some countries that you’re currently in, but are there countries that you want to get into? And where do you think that the most robust demand potentially originates over the next, let’s call it, five years in different parts of the world?

Rafael O. SantanaPresident and Chief Executive Officer

Well, a couple points. Number one, it’s tough to speculate on really how projects will materialize over the next five years. But what I’m really excited about is we have established what I’ll call a significant footprint in what I’ll call all key rail freight markets. And that speaks to countries like Brazil, Kazakhstan, India, South Africa, and those really have become platforms for us, where we have scalability, where we’ve been able to work locally, where we’ve really grown significantly our share over time. Ultimately, they have become falls that have translated into having a more competitive business, and we’re utilizing those platforms to actually export into other countries. So, I think we’re really excited about that and we’ll continue to make use of that.

Matt BrooklierBuckingham Research — Analyst

That’s great. Appreciate the time.

Operator

Our next question comes from Mike Baudendistel from Stifel. Please go ahead.

Mike BaudendistelStifel — Analyst

Thank you. Just want to ask you to sort of put the PSR into context. Is there some way to quantify or give us a percentage of how much of your revenue is specifically tied to newly built locomotives, newly built railcars? Just trying to gauge the impact there?

Rafael O. SantanaPresident and Chief Executive Officer

So let me give you a reference on the following. If I look at the guidance we’ve provided to you for 2019, I’d say the revenues coming from new locomotives for this year will be probably around 15% of the total revenues for the company.

Mike BaudendistelStifel — Analyst

Okay. Got it. That’s helpful. And then just want to ask you on the cash from operations guidance, the adjusted $800 million. Is there any reason to think if results were similar in 2020, that, that would be any higher or lower from changes in working capital or other things?

Patrick D. DuganSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes. I think we had this discussion. We don’t give guidance on next year. But I think your point is, is that there is a lot of things happening in year one of this combination and it does have an impact on the cash flow, but so we can see cash from operations will be strong in the future years and I’ll leave it at that, really. Yes, I mean, I think, I’ve had this conversation with a lot of people, lot of questions. I mean, the EBITDA is strong in kind of a normal year with our expected working capital performance that we would end up with cash from operations would be higher.

Mike BaudendistelStifel — Analyst

Got it. And then I just wanted to ask you, you use to talk about — before the merger, the 12 months backlog, about 57% of the revenue just wouldn’t go in there because it was — they had a lead time of less than 30 days, is there an update to that number?

Patrick D. DuganSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

No, I don’t think we have an update to that number yet, Mike.

Mike BaudendistelStifel — Analyst

Okay. That’s all for me. Thank you. Congrats to everyone.

Patrick D. DuganSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Steve Barger from KeyBanc. Please go ahead.

Steve BargerKeyBanc — Analyst

Hi, good morning everyone.

Patrick D. DuganSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Good morning.

Steve BargerKeyBanc — Analyst

Thinking about your comments on backlog mix of new locomotives versus modifications, how should we think about average revenue for a newbuild versus a mod?

Rafael O. SantanaPresident and Chief Executive Officer

I’m going to give you really a wide range, because it really varies across the board. But I’d probably say, while new a locomotive might be going anywhere from, I’ll call it, $3 million to $4 million, you’ll have an average ticket item that’s about 1/3 to half of that for mods.

Steve BargerKeyBanc — Analyst

That’s great. Thank you. And margin profile, is the mod higher or lower?

Rafael O. SantanaPresident and Chief Executive Officer

We do not comment on specific margins on those segments.

Steve BargerKeyBanc — Analyst

Okay. Just given some of the uncertainty around timing of when railroads might acquire equipment, because of PSR or anything else. With more technology getting installed in the fleet, are you getting a better look at utilization rates for the installed base to help you forecast demand?

Patrick D. DuganSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

So we work very closely with the railroads in the day-to-day of their operations. And I’d say it’s really a part of the value that we bring. It’s really these productivity tools to improve efficiency and productivity, availability. And that’s really part of our day-to-day. We monitor closely our fleets that are being parts. We monitor closely all the aspects of opportunities to potentially extend the life of certain assets or modernize some other assets so you can potentially look at last assets operating. So that’s really part of our day-to-day.

Steve BargerKeyBanc — Analyst

And can you tell us how the change in the utilization rate for the fleet has evolved over the year, just given where traffic level are?

Rafael O. SantanaPresident and Chief Executive Officer

I’d say we’re seeing — I mean, as you look into PSR being implemented, that’s certainly growing, I’ll call it, deficiency in terms of number of cars being pulled by locomotives. It’s a little bit different to railroad by railroads. And I would be — I’d say, difficult to give you a specific data on each one. It really varies based on the model that’s being utilized.

Steve BargerKeyBanc — Analyst

But in general, you would say it’s improving, right?

Rafael O. SantanaPresident and Chief Executive Officer

Yes, it’s improving, for sure.

Steve BargerKeyBanc — Analyst

The inflation rate is improving?

Rafael O. SantanaPresident and Chief Executive Officer

Yes.

Steve BargerKeyBanc — Analyst

Okay. And just one last one. What were core Freight margins in the quarter ex the five weeks of GE inclusion?

Patrick D. DuganSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Sorry, say that again — the question again?

Steve BargerKeyBanc — Analyst

The legacy Wabtec Freight margin, ex-GE for the five weeks?

Patrick D. DuganSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

It was about 18.

Steve BargerKeyBanc — Analyst

About 18. Okay. Thanks.

Operator

(Operator Instructions) This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Tim Wesley for any closing remarks.

Timothy R. WesleyVice President of Investor Relations

Okay. Thanks, everybody. We will talk to you over the next weeks and months. Have a good day. Bye-bye.

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today’s presentation. You may now disconnect.

Duration: 58 minutes

Call participants:

Timothy R. WesleyVice President of Investor Relations

Albert J. NeupaverExecutive Chairman

Rafael O. SantanaPresident and Chief Executive Officer

Raymond T. BetlerPresident & Chief Executive Officer

Patrick D. DuganSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Matt ElkottCowen & Company — Analyst

Allison PoliniakWells Fargo — Analyst

Saree BoroditskyJefferies — Analyst

Justin LongStephens — Analyst

Matt BrooklierBuckingham Research — Analyst

Mike BaudendistelStifel — Analyst

Steve BargerKeyBanc — Analyst

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